[Ubuntu NL gemeenschapsraad] Opzet: Question about the use of the trademark name Ubuntu

[Thomas de Graaff]

On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 12:10 +0200, Redmar wrote:
> Hallo allemaal,
> 
> Ik moest de onderstaande zin 3x lezen voordat ik begreep wat er stond. 
> 
> > >No bank account makes endeavors that involve money like
> > > organizing events, create promotion material, get sponsorship to buy
> > > cd's etc. quite hard to organize.
> 
> Misschien is een iets andere formulering beter:
Zeker! :)
> 
> Without a bank account it is quite hard to organize events that cost
> money, create promotion material or get sponsorship.
> 
> Groet,
> Redmar
> 
> Ronnie van den Crommenacker schreef op zo 17-07-2011 om 23:33 [+0200]:
> > goede aanvulling thomas. Op IRC kreeg ik nog het advies van leoquant
> > om onze voortgang hierin al te vermelden, zodat er geen discussie gaat
> > ontstaan over de gevolgen van het oprichten van een stichting en welke
> > stappen hier allemaal bij komen kijken. Zie onderstaande wijziging
> > 
> > 
> > Op 17-07-11 22:55, Thomas de Graaff schreef: 
> > > Hallo Ronnie,
> > > goede opzet, hier mijn feedback, toevoegingen.
> > > 
> > > Misschien kan het nog iets ingekort:
> > > 
> > > =============
> > > Dear Canonical,
> > > 
> > > Ubuntu-NL has a question about the use of the trademark name 'Ubuntu' in
> > > the name for the legal entity (a non profit foundation), we are
> > > establishing to support our LoCo community in its endeavors.
> > > 
> > > The name we would like to use for the foundation is: "Stichting
> > > Ondersteuning Ubuntu­-NL" freely translated to "Foundation to support
> > > Ubuntu-NL"
> > > 
> > > The reasons why Ubuntu-NL needs an legal entity, a non profit
> > > foundation:
> > >  - In the Netherlands it is impossible to open a bank account without a
> > > legal entity. No bank account makes endeavors that involve money like
> > > organizing events, create promotion material, get sponsorship to buy
> > > cd's etc. quite hard to organize.
> > >  - Sponsorship of a non profit foundation is very interesting for
> > > companies who then receive part of the sponsorship back as a result of
> > > special tax regulations in the Netherlands.
> > >  - People organizing events need liability insurance. Without means
> > > Ubuntu-NL cannot provide any help for volunteers getting insured.
> > >  - The communities goods are managed by a group of people instead of one
> > > person.
> > >  - Ubuntu-NL needs to be a legal entity to be able to make contracts
> > > with other parties. For example to be able as a community to arrange
> > > website hosting. Without a legal entity such contracts need to be on the
> > > name of a single person what gives problems if this person wants to get
> > > rid of the contract etc.
> > > 
> > We already have taken care of the insurance policy, financials and the
> > foundation board. All the paperwork has been done. All we need is
> > clearance about the name of the foundation.
> > > Since Canonical owns the Ubuntu trademark we need permission to use the
> > > term Ubuntu in the name of the foundation: "Stichting Ondersteuning
> > > Ubuntu-NL" (translated: Foundation to support Ubuntu-NL). Can you give
> > > our community permission to use the term "Ubuntu" in this name of the
> > > foundation?
> > > 
> > > Kind regards,
> > > 
> > > Ronnie van den Crommenacker
> > > Loco-contact of Ubutnu-NL
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 2011-07-17 at 15:30 +0200, Ronnie van den Crommenacker wrote:
> > > > Dear Canonical employee,
> > > > 
> > > > Our loco (Ubuntu-NL) has a question about the use of the trademark
> > > > name 'Ubuntu' for our legal volunteer association structure.
> > > > 
> > > > As Ubuntu-NL loco we want to establish an foundation. 
> > > > We like to use the name: "Stichting ondersteuning Ubuntu­NL" freely
> > > > translated to "Foundation support UbuntuNL"
> > > > 
> > > > Since Ubuntu is an trademark name we need to verify, if we as loco are
> > > > allowed to create a legal structure with the name Ubuntu in it.
> > > > 
> > > > Why Ubuntu-NL needs an foundation:
> > > >  - With a foundation we can receive gifts/donations/goods from
> > > > companies (companies cant donate easily to persons, cause some rule
> > > > about taxes)
> > > >  - The goods are managed by a group of people instead of one person.
> > > >  - For liability insurance at release parties
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Ronnie van den Crommenacker
> > > > Loco-contact of Ubutnu-NL 
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